It seems the more mainstreaming of mindfulness occurs, the more its claims are being questioned. @ronpurser is a longtime critic of the widespread mainstreaming and overselling of mindfulness practices. He views mainstream mindfulness as an amplifier of Western consumerist individualism and a banal form of capitalist spirituality; one he claims utterly avoids cultivation of social and political transformation. Ron offers ways for mindfulness delivery in healthcare and business settings to cast off its neoliberal shackles, and be redirected toward collective awakening. Ron and I have known each other for quite some time. He is erudite and engaging. I truly hope you enjoy this stimulating and intimate dialogue.